terriblearguments:

yourkickstartersucks:

colorsofsocialjustice:

yourkickstartersucks:

more white savior bullshit. buy a picture book of some adorable starving haitian kids so you can feel good about yourself

Capturing Hope: Haiti is a photo book that will capture the hope and optimism in Haiti despite all of the poverty that fills the country. This book is going to capture the huge difference in the lives of people living on the streets, begging and struggling to make a better life for themselves compared to the lives of 48 orphans that have received help from generous and loving people. We will be traveling to the orphanage in Haiti this summer on a mission trip. On this trip, Erin will be taking photos to create the photo book.


Ah yes, even if the proceeds go to HELP THEM it’s still “white savior bullshit.”

Where does it say the proceeds are going to Haitians bub

What a great example of “Real Social Justice” blogs doing “Real Social Justice.” Even though nowhere in the description does it say that proceeds will go to help the kids in Haiti, all that this “Real Social Justice” blog cares about is that OP pointed out that this project reeks of a white savior complex.
Priorities huh?

But the OP attacking this rather than actually DOING SOMETHING shows us good prioritising? Its not exactly helping these kids if you shame someone whose trying to RAISE AWARENESS for not doing it how you want them to. if you have an issue with it then why don’t YOU get off your arse and go to an orphanage in Haiti to help rather than attacking someone who is whilst relaxing in the comfort of your cosy little room. Why is no one questioning the OP’s priorities?If you have actually helped then fair enough but it still doesn’t excuse you posting this just to make yourself feel good.

terriblearguments:

yourkickstartersucks:

colorsofsocialjustice:

yourkickstartersucks:

more white savior bullshit. buy a picture book of some adorable starving haitian kids so you can feel good about yourself

Capturing Hope: Haiti is a photo book that will capture the hope and optimism in Haiti despite all of the poverty that fills the country. This book is going to capture the huge difference in the lives of people living on the streets, begging and struggling to make a better life for themselves compared to the lives of 48 orphans that have received help from generous and loving people. We will be traveling to the orphanage in Haiti this summer on a mission trip. On this trip, Erin will be taking photos to create the photo book.

Ah yes, even if the proceeds go to HELP THEM it’s still “white savior bullshit.”

Where does it say the proceeds are going to Haitians bub

What a great example of “Real Social Justice” blogs doing “Real Social Justice.” Even though nowhere in the description does it say that proceeds will go to help the kids in Haiti, all that this “Real Social Justice” blog cares about is that OP pointed out that this project reeks of a white savior complex.

Priorities huh?

But the OP attacking this rather than actually DOING SOMETHING shows us good prioritising? Its not exactly helping these kids if you shame someone whose trying to RAISE AWARENESS for not doing it how you want them to. if you have an issue with it then why don’t YOU get off your arse and go to an orphanage in Haiti to help rather than attacking someone who is whilst relaxing in the comfort of your cosy little room. Why is no one questioning the OP’s priorities?
If you have actually helped then fair enough but it still doesn’t excuse you posting this just to make yourself feel good.

Anonymous asked:

Who's users are more stupid 4chan or tumblr(not that all users of 4chan and tumblr are dumb)

terriblearguments:

gameboypath:

tenaflyviper:

Honestly?  Tumblr.

A lot of the people on 4chan will act like unapologetic assholes, but at least they’re not self-righteous about it.  And, if shown legitimate proof of something, (based on what I’ve seen) they’ll usually accept it, whereas Tumblr prefers to pass around bogus statistics, and cling to emotional pleas, rather than logic.

4chan often behaves like idiots, but they’re aware that they’re behaving like idiots.  That’s the whole point.  People go there to be anonymous assholes on purpose.  Meanwhile, Tumblr is filled with bullies and rejects that think they’re doing the world a goddamn favor by acting like snide, entitled little shit mongers.

4chan will call you a “faggot” regardless of gender/sexual identity, which appears to be generally understood to the point where no one even gives a shit anymore.

Tumblr becomes irrationally outraged when you somehow don’t already magically know the “preferred pronouns” of someone you hadn’t even heard of before, even when these “pronouns” are complete crocks of shit like “bunself”, or “princesself”.  They then become indignant if you don’t fall to your knees and cater to every last one of their demented little demands, and treat them like the extra special little snowflake that they think they are.

4chan fields obvious inflammatory comments with relative ease, simply by dismissing them as stupid, humoring them for a laugh, or ignoring them from the start.  When vitriol does happen, at least it’s mostly reserved to two morons having a witless tennis match of words while everyone else goads them on for the sake of entertainment.

Tumblr takes every goddamn thing as though it’s deadly fucking serious, to the point where people are afraid to voice their opinions on their favorite cookies, lest it somehow “offends” someone.

4chan will bust your nuts until you can prove a claim you’ve made.

Tumblr will gladly make viral the “news” that the sky has suddenly turned neon green, and is raining Nickelodeon Gak - if there’s enough of an emotional, impassioned plea to do so.  Especially if they claim their “child” or “younger sibling” saw (and was upset by) this “incident”.

If you like something, and express it, 4chan will tell you it’s terrible just to piss you off.

Do this on Tumblr, and someone will claim you’re “oppressing them” simply because they don’t happen to like it.  Then, through emotional manipulation, they try to spread the mindset that you’re somehow “scum” just for enjoying something that they don’t.

While I wouldn’t recommend it as a place to go to “have fun”, 4chan has actually become more welcoming than tumblr at this point.

And that’s just fucking sad.

Respectful disagreement here. While I agree that the social structure of Tumblr and its post format generally favor emotional appeals over reasoning and rational discussion (and how there’s considerable ramifications for that), 4Chan is hardly a forgiving, welcoming place.

Not going to claim to be a 4Chan expert, but they’ve absolutely never had a history or reputation of changing their mind when given persuasive evidence. 4Chan is a place of closed-mindedness. The anonymity gives absolutely no reason to save face or concede anything, no reason to admit wrongness. No reputation to uphold, no long-term consequences, no worries.

The problem with 4Chan’s unapologetic xenophobia, bigotry, slurs, and general apathy to human suffering is essentially Poe’s Law. Not everyone who posts horrible things about people do so jokingly. It’s a place where bigots and assholes can find company among others shouting what they want to hear. A joking community of dicks to some is racist normativism to others. When given the comparison to Tumblr, would you rather have a community that breeds ideologies of extreme levels of tolerance and consideration for the needs of the wronged, or mindsets of extreme levels of disdain and exclusivity?

As for which is more accepting? Yes, Tumblr has been personified by their hypocritical vocal minority of those preaching their hatred of white, straight males. Go to nearly any board on 4Chan and so much as off-handedly mention yourself as female, and people will drop everything to request you upload pictures of your breasts to them. Jokesters with nothing to lose, or scumbags who genuinely consider women as sexual objects? Likely both.

Lastly, to say Tumblr breeds bullies is debatable. But there’s no question that 4Chan excels in making bullying integral to their culture, their identity. They relish the misery of others, especially the weak - such targets are the most hilarious victims to them. The “it’s just a joke” excuse is about as effective here as with real-life bullying.

But ultimately, our opinions are simply going to side with just how much of each website we’ve been exposed to. Tenaflyviper admits that their claim of 4Chan being accepting of new evidence is based on personal experiences. And as Anon suggested in their question, it’s ridiculous to claim that every user on each site is dumb. Really, it’s hard to say just how much of Tumblr or 4Chan is “stupid” when we can only see so much of each, and confirmation bias suggests we’ll simply continue to pay attention to and remember what confirms our expectations. Hell, I’ve never been on Twitter, but I already have a poor impression of it, having known about this counter of how many times gay slurs are used there.

If you think Tumblr’s stupid based on what you’ve heard and seen, you’re going to think Tumblr’s stupid. I just wanted to touch on some points that I felt were left out. Thanks for reading!

This was such a well written argument that I really want to feature it on this blog because for some odd reason this post it keeps getting notes.

Especially since the op is a person who cannot look past their own confirmation bias and creates competition between two websites that are not even remotely similar.

The best part is that op (and all the people who agree with this post) are still on tumblr even though they hate it so much.

Fashion Do's or Dont's: Bindis

kruelkids:

As a little girl, I loved getting ready for Indian weddings. It was one of the few occasions my mom would let me wear her red lipstick. Right before we would leave she would call me into her room and let me pick out a bindi to wear to go along with my colorful lengha. Back then I only understood…

If I ever quit Twitter it will be because of how close minded and judgemental and needlessly argumentative everyone is. Like I can’t even agree with someone without them then somehow thinking I’m disagreeing and turning against me. Like Wtf is everyone’s logic here?!

http://baionce.tumblr.com/post/82625237821/theconsequenceofsoundss-baionce-baionce

theconsequenceofsoundss:

baionce:

baionce:

when you search “turban” on google images a shocking amount of white people come up and for me as a sikh, a turban’s supposed to protect your hair to show devotion to god and in other cultures it’s seen as a religious or tribal item

and like what is this

First of all, no need to be so rude since I was actually AGREEING with you if you read correctly. Second of all, I did say it’s offensive to call them turbans, did I not? Third of all, I personally have never worn henna, but my MUSLIM friends wear it whenever they want to and it doesn’t seem to bother anyone and it’s, like, kinda their religion too so it’s up to them when they choose to wear it. And lastly, I find it quite offensive to be referred to as a group of people. I’m stating my opinion, you don’t know whether or not I’ve worn henna before so unless you have some magical powers as to guess that then you have absolutely no right to speak to me as if me and “all the other white people” are the same. I know people here seem to think that it’s impossible to be racist to a white person but I find it quite insulting that you think that just because I’m white you should see everything I say, especially when I’m agreeing with you, as something to be angry about. As well as the fact that just because I’m white you think you can paint me with the same brush that you do all white people.
I’m actually a nice person and if you maybe read what I said, rather than looking at my avi and seeing that I’m white and assuming that I’m disputing what your post said, you would”ve realized that my addition was just that. I wasn’t replying to you, I was merely adding my 3pence to your argument, ON YOUR SIDE.

tastykake:

maximilianofmexico:

there’s literally no where to go

haha, oh my god, like, JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE’RE LOOKING AT HERE, for anyone who might not know, jewish voices for peace is in fact a pro-palestine organization! it’s pro-BDS! it’s concerned about misuse of charges of antisemitism to stifle debate! it wants to end the occupation! like, re: the question in one of these comments, “is killing palestinians a hate crime?” ALMOST CERTAINLY WHOEVER POSTED THIS STATUS ON THE JVP FB PAGE WOULD SAY YES!!! 
so like, these are your quote-unquote “good jews,” is what i’m saying here, ok, these are the ones you fucking awful so-called progressives like to tokenize and pretend to understand and care about, but you still don’t fucking listen to them except when it’s convenient, except when they’re saying exactly what you want to hear; you still speak over them and accuse them of making shit up for attention and like, literally what the fuck do you WANT, what has to HAPPEN for you to realize that not everything is about israel, that we’re not always the oppressors, that in many (most!!!) circumstances we’re still an incredibly vulnerable marginalized group, like, literally what does it take?
here is what happened in kansas city yesterday: an admitted long-time antisemite shot up two jewish facilities on the eve of a major jewish holiday and then shouted “heil hitler” on camera as he was being arrested, and yet somehow it’s maybe not a hate crime, somehow this is about gun control and mental illness and the fact that white men are never demonized as terrorists the way POC are, it’s about gaza and it’s about the IDF and it’s about the dumbass idea that use of the term antisemitism is in fact itself oppressive, it’s about the evils of organized religion in general and it’s about EVERYTHING IN THE GODDAMN WORLD EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT, GUESS WHAT, A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL FUCKING HATE JEWS AND YOU ALL DON’T CARE, and just, like, what do you even fucking WANT? i don’t know. i really don’t.
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tastykake:

maximilianofmexico:

there’s literally no where to go

haha, oh my god, like, JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE’RE LOOKING AT HERE, for anyone who might not know, jewish voices for peace is in fact a pro-palestine organization! it’s pro-BDS! it’s concerned about misuse of charges of antisemitism to stifle debate! it wants to end the occupation! like, re: the question in one of these comments, “is killing palestinians a hate crime?” ALMOST CERTAINLY WHOEVER POSTED THIS STATUS ON THE JVP FB PAGE WOULD SAY YES!!! 
so like, these are your quote-unquote “good jews,” is what i’m saying here, ok, these are the ones you fucking awful so-called progressives like to tokenize and pretend to understand and care about, but you still don’t fucking listen to them except when it’s convenient, except when they’re saying exactly what you want to hear; you still speak over them and accuse them of making shit up for attention and like, literally what the fuck do you WANT, what has to HAPPEN for you to realize that not everything is about israel, that we’re not always the oppressors, that in many (most!!!) circumstances we’re still an incredibly vulnerable marginalized group, like, literally what does it take?
here is what happened in kansas city yesterday: an admitted long-time antisemite shot up two jewish facilities on the eve of a major jewish holiday and then shouted “heil hitler” on camera as he was being arrested, and yet somehow it’s maybe not a hate crime, somehow this is about gun control and mental illness and the fact that white men are never demonized as terrorists the way POC are, it’s about gaza and it’s about the IDF and it’s about the dumbass idea that use of the term antisemitism is in fact itself oppressive, it’s about the evils of organized religion in general and it’s about EVERYTHING IN THE GODDAMN WORLD EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT, GUESS WHAT, A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL FUCKING HATE JEWS AND YOU ALL DON’T CARE, and just, like, what do you even fucking WANT? i don’t know. i really don’t.
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tastykake:

maximilianofmexico:

there’s literally no where to go

haha, oh my god, like, JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE’RE LOOKING AT HERE, for anyone who might not know, jewish voices for peace is in fact a pro-palestine organization! it’s pro-BDS! it’s concerned about misuse of charges of antisemitism to stifle debate! it wants to end the occupation! like, re: the question in one of these comments, “is killing palestinians a hate crime?” ALMOST CERTAINLY WHOEVER POSTED THIS STATUS ON THE JVP FB PAGE WOULD SAY YES!!! 
so like, these are your quote-unquote “good jews,” is what i’m saying here, ok, these are the ones you fucking awful so-called progressives like to tokenize and pretend to understand and care about, but you still don’t fucking listen to them except when it’s convenient, except when they’re saying exactly what you want to hear; you still speak over them and accuse them of making shit up for attention and like, literally what the fuck do you WANT, what has to HAPPEN for you to realize that not everything is about israel, that we’re not always the oppressors, that in many (most!!!) circumstances we’re still an incredibly vulnerable marginalized group, like, literally what does it take?
here is what happened in kansas city yesterday: an admitted long-time antisemite shot up two jewish facilities on the eve of a major jewish holiday and then shouted “heil hitler” on camera as he was being arrested, and yet somehow it’s maybe not a hate crime, somehow this is about gun control and mental illness and the fact that white men are never demonized as terrorists the way POC are, it’s about gaza and it’s about the IDF and it’s about the dumbass idea that use of the term antisemitism is in fact itself oppressive, it’s about the evils of organized religion in general and it’s about EVERYTHING IN THE GODDAMN WORLD EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT, GUESS WHAT, A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL FUCKING HATE JEWS AND YOU ALL DON’T CARE, and just, like, what do you even fucking WANT? i don’t know. i really don’t.
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tastykake:

maximilianofmexico:

there’s literally no where to go

haha, oh my god, like, JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE’RE LOOKING AT HERE, for anyone who might not know, jewish voices for peace is in fact a pro-palestine organization! it’s pro-BDS! it’s concerned about misuse of charges of antisemitism to stifle debate! it wants to end the occupation! like, re: the question in one of these comments, “is killing palestinians a hate crime?” ALMOST CERTAINLY WHOEVER POSTED THIS STATUS ON THE JVP FB PAGE WOULD SAY YES!!! 
so like, these are your quote-unquote “good jews,” is what i’m saying here, ok, these are the ones you fucking awful so-called progressives like to tokenize and pretend to understand and care about, but you still don’t fucking listen to them except when it’s convenient, except when they’re saying exactly what you want to hear; you still speak over them and accuse them of making shit up for attention and like, literally what the fuck do you WANT, what has to HAPPEN for you to realize that not everything is about israel, that we’re not always the oppressors, that in many (most!!!) circumstances we’re still an incredibly vulnerable marginalized group, like, literally what does it take?
here is what happened in kansas city yesterday: an admitted long-time antisemite shot up two jewish facilities on the eve of a major jewish holiday and then shouted “heil hitler” on camera as he was being arrested, and yet somehow it’s maybe not a hate crime, somehow this is about gun control and mental illness and the fact that white men are never demonized as terrorists the way POC are, it’s about gaza and it’s about the IDF and it’s about the dumbass idea that use of the term antisemitism is in fact itself oppressive, it’s about the evils of organized religion in general and it’s about EVERYTHING IN THE GODDAMN WORLD EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT, GUESS WHAT, A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL FUCKING HATE JEWS AND YOU ALL DON’T CARE, and just, like, what do you even fucking WANT? i don’t know. i really don’t.
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tastykake:

maximilianofmexico:

there’s literally no where to go

haha, oh my god, like, JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE’RE LOOKING AT HERE, for anyone who might not know, jewish voices for peace is in fact a pro-palestine organization! it’s pro-BDS! it’s concerned about misuse of charges of antisemitism to stifle debate! it wants to end the occupation! like, re: the question in one of these comments, “is killing palestinians a hate crime?” ALMOST CERTAINLY WHOEVER POSTED THIS STATUS ON THE JVP FB PAGE WOULD SAY YES!!! 
so like, these are your quote-unquote “good jews,” is what i’m saying here, ok, these are the ones you fucking awful so-called progressives like to tokenize and pretend to understand and care about, but you still don’t fucking listen to them except when it’s convenient, except when they’re saying exactly what you want to hear; you still speak over them and accuse them of making shit up for attention and like, literally what the fuck do you WANT, what has to HAPPEN for you to realize that not everything is about israel, that we’re not always the oppressors, that in many (most!!!) circumstances we’re still an incredibly vulnerable marginalized group, like, literally what does it take?
here is what happened in kansas city yesterday: an admitted long-time antisemite shot up two jewish facilities on the eve of a major jewish holiday and then shouted “heil hitler” on camera as he was being arrested, and yet somehow it’s maybe not a hate crime, somehow this is about gun control and mental illness and the fact that white men are never demonized as terrorists the way POC are, it’s about gaza and it’s about the IDF and it’s about the dumbass idea that use of the term antisemitism is in fact itself oppressive, it’s about the evils of organized religion in general and it’s about EVERYTHING IN THE GODDAMN WORLD EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT, GUESS WHAT, A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL FUCKING HATE JEWS AND YOU ALL DON’T CARE, and just, like, what do you even fucking WANT? i don’t know. i really don’t.
Zoom Info
tastykake:

maximilianofmexico:

there’s literally no where to go

haha, oh my god, like, JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE’RE LOOKING AT HERE, for anyone who might not know, jewish voices for peace is in fact a pro-palestine organization! it’s pro-BDS! it’s concerned about misuse of charges of antisemitism to stifle debate! it wants to end the occupation! like, re: the question in one of these comments, “is killing palestinians a hate crime?” ALMOST CERTAINLY WHOEVER POSTED THIS STATUS ON THE JVP FB PAGE WOULD SAY YES!!! 
so like, these are your quote-unquote “good jews,” is what i’m saying here, ok, these are the ones you fucking awful so-called progressives like to tokenize and pretend to understand and care about, but you still don’t fucking listen to them except when it’s convenient, except when they’re saying exactly what you want to hear; you still speak over them and accuse them of making shit up for attention and like, literally what the fuck do you WANT, what has to HAPPEN for you to realize that not everything is about israel, that we’re not always the oppressors, that in many (most!!!) circumstances we’re still an incredibly vulnerable marginalized group, like, literally what does it take?
here is what happened in kansas city yesterday: an admitted long-time antisemite shot up two jewish facilities on the eve of a major jewish holiday and then shouted “heil hitler” on camera as he was being arrested, and yet somehow it’s maybe not a hate crime, somehow this is about gun control and mental illness and the fact that white men are never demonized as terrorists the way POC are, it’s about gaza and it’s about the IDF and it’s about the dumbass idea that use of the term antisemitism is in fact itself oppressive, it’s about the evils of organized religion in general and it’s about EVERYTHING IN THE GODDAMN WORLD EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT, GUESS WHAT, A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL FUCKING HATE JEWS AND YOU ALL DON’T CARE, and just, like, what do you even fucking WANT? i don’t know. i really don’t.
Zoom Info
tastykake:

maximilianofmexico:

there’s literally no where to go

haha, oh my god, like, JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE’RE LOOKING AT HERE, for anyone who might not know, jewish voices for peace is in fact a pro-palestine organization! it’s pro-BDS! it’s concerned about misuse of charges of antisemitism to stifle debate! it wants to end the occupation! like, re: the question in one of these comments, “is killing palestinians a hate crime?” ALMOST CERTAINLY WHOEVER POSTED THIS STATUS ON THE JVP FB PAGE WOULD SAY YES!!! 
so like, these are your quote-unquote “good jews,” is what i’m saying here, ok, these are the ones you fucking awful so-called progressives like to tokenize and pretend to understand and care about, but you still don’t fucking listen to them except when it’s convenient, except when they’re saying exactly what you want to hear; you still speak over them and accuse them of making shit up for attention and like, literally what the fuck do you WANT, what has to HAPPEN for you to realize that not everything is about israel, that we’re not always the oppressors, that in many (most!!!) circumstances we’re still an incredibly vulnerable marginalized group, like, literally what does it take?
here is what happened in kansas city yesterday: an admitted long-time antisemite shot up two jewish facilities on the eve of a major jewish holiday and then shouted “heil hitler” on camera as he was being arrested, and yet somehow it’s maybe not a hate crime, somehow this is about gun control and mental illness and the fact that white men are never demonized as terrorists the way POC are, it’s about gaza and it’s about the IDF and it’s about the dumbass idea that use of the term antisemitism is in fact itself oppressive, it’s about the evils of organized religion in general and it’s about EVERYTHING IN THE GODDAMN WORLD EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT, GUESS WHAT, A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL FUCKING HATE JEWS AND YOU ALL DON’T CARE, and just, like, what do you even fucking WANT? i don’t know. i really don’t.
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tastykake:

maximilianofmexico:

there’s literally no where to go

haha, oh my god, like, JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE’RE LOOKING AT HERE, for anyone who might not know, jewish voices for peace is in fact a pro-palestine organization! it’s pro-BDS! it’s concerned about misuse of charges of antisemitism to stifle debate! it wants to end the occupation! like, re: the question in one of these comments, “is killing palestinians a hate crime?” ALMOST CERTAINLY WHOEVER POSTED THIS STATUS ON THE JVP FB PAGE WOULD SAY YES!!! 

so like, these are your quote-unquote “good jews,” is what i’m saying here, ok, these are the ones you fucking awful so-called progressives like to tokenize and pretend to understand and care about, but you still don’t fucking listen to them except when it’s convenient, except when they’re saying exactly what you want to hear; you still speak over them and accuse them of making shit up for attention and like, literally what the fuck do you WANT, what has to HAPPEN for you to realize that not everything is about israel, that we’re not always the oppressors, that in many (most!!!) circumstances we’re still an incredibly vulnerable marginalized group, like, literally what does it take?

here is what happened in kansas city yesterday: an admitted long-time antisemite shot up two jewish facilities on the eve of a major jewish holiday and then shouted “heil hitler” on camera as he was being arrested, and yet somehow it’s maybe not a hate crime, somehow this is about gun control and mental illness and the fact that white men are never demonized as terrorists the way POC are, it’s about gaza and it’s about the IDF and it’s about the dumbass idea that use of the term antisemitism is in fact itself oppressive, it’s about the evils of organized religion in general and it’s about EVERYTHING IN THE GODDAMN WORLD EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT, GUESS WHAT, A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL FUCKING HATE JEWS AND YOU ALL DON’T CARE, and just, like, what do you even fucking WANT? i don’t know. i really don’t.